Veteran Completed

Hey Everyone, Alex Here

I just finished off the first veteran for my second veteran squad. The squad is equipped completely with plasma guns. It should be brutal to use in game.

Using the FW respirator heads (specifically the one here with the targeter), I think this squad will look rather deadly and impersonal: I like that.









Expect another veteran tomorrow and the day after that! These guys have gotta be painted up for the 'Ard Boyz...

New Sergeants

Hey Everyone Alex here

Just thought I would update the blog. I made and painted up two new sergeants so that my army is once again WYSIWYG (no more lasguns on sergeants!)





I will be painting a bit this week getting ready for the 'Ard Boyz tournament. Another update soon!

1000pt Doubles tourney results...

Today Alex and I had a doubles tournament at our local gaming shop Jester's Cap. We both played 500pts each of Guard armies (my Valhallans, his Cadian). Our lists were as follows (light blue is mine, light green is his):

HQ
Primaris Psyker - 70

Company Command Squad - 65
+ Vox-caster, 2x Grenade Launcher

Elites
Guardsman Marbo - 65

Troops
Veteran Squad - 100
+ 3x Melta Gun

Chimera - 55

Platoon Command Squad - 30
Squad A - 60
+ Grenade Launcher, Mortar

Squad B - 60
+ Grenade Launcher, Mortar

Squad C - 60
+ Grenade Launcher, Mortar

Platoon Command Squad - 60
+ Vox-caster, Melta Gun, Power Fist

Squad A - 110
+ Vox-caster, Melta Gun, Commissar w/Plasma Pistol

Squad B - 55
+ Melta Gun

Mortar Squad - 60

Heavy Support
Leman Russ Battle Tank - 150

Our first game we played against Chaos and Orks. We made a few mistakes:
1) We forgot to assault with Alex's PCS and move Marbo which screwed both of them over
2) We targeted a Mega Nob squad instead of a lone boy (we played Victory Points) which would've given us a lot more points.

We only scored about half of the available points that round. Blah.

Second game we played our friends Kishvier and Brother Chaplain Raimo from the Astronomican and Warseer forums. They had a Chaos army and Imperial Guard army respectively. We made a HUGE mistake in combining our squads (Alex had 30 men, I had 20) because we thought we were playing Kill Points for some reason. Because of that a Demon Prince wiped out Alex's 30 man squad (but then got obliterated by Vets and a Primaris Psyker) and a four man Khorne Beserker squad wiped out my infantry. The commissar was amazing though because of stubborn and his leadership of 9. SO, SO, SO, SO useful!! Marbo single-handedly destroyed their CCS which was totally badass too. My mortars just shined this game because they never missed a shot until the end. Absolutely epic. The only thing they had left was the four beserkers (they wouldn't die!) so we won that with almost all the avaliable points for that round.

Our third game was great, we nearly tabled the enemy with minimal loses. We played against Chaos and Eldar and destroyed their Demon Prince with massed Las fire (First Rank, Second Rank for the win!) and a few meltas. The only thing we lost was my PCS and the Leman Russ at the VERY end of the game. The only thing they had left was a Chaos Marine squad and a Rhino on the opposite corner of the board. We, again, won almost all of the avaliable points.

Despite our success in the second two games, we only placed fourth. We missed third by about 20 points (if we killed the ONE ork boy in the first game we would've gotten it) and missed second by about 50 (again, that one ork boy would've made it close). Overall, though, I'm incredibly pleased at how our list functioned. It definitely worked together and not like two seperate lists which was great. However, our stupid mistakes in the first game cost us a chance at some great prizes (though, to be fair, that team won first! In fact, the last team we played won second so I feel pretty good!)

That is all for now. Alex and I should have some updates for you this week and if not, I lied to you! Hope you all are enjoying your summer so far (or winter for you in the Southern Hemisphere!).

Friday FAQ #3

Well it's that time again- another Friday FAQ!

This week we have a question from CyborgTrucker (check out his blog here!). His question:

Can Lesser Demons hold objectives since in the back of the CSM Codex it says:

"Units of Summoned Lesser Demons do not use up any force organization chart selection, but are otherwise treated as a Troops unit."

I don't know or recall where I heard that they can't. For all I know I've been following an urban legend on a ruling that never really occurred or existed. If there is a definitive place that answers this, where is it? I did check the GW CSM FAQ just to be sure I didn't miss an obvious place for an answer.

This is an interesting question. Reading the rules for scoring units in the 5th Edition Rule Book on page 90 it states:

An army's scoring units are all the units that come from its Troops allowance.

As CyborgTrucker mentioned in his question, the entry for Summoned Lesser Demons on page 102 of the Chaos Space Marine codex says:

"Units of Summoned Lesser Demons do not use up any force organization chart selection, but are otherwise treated as a Troops unit."

Looking at both of these entries it would seem the logical answer is no, Summoned Lesser Demons do not count as scoring units since they are not from the Troops allowance because they don't take up a Force Organizational slot. However, this thread on DakkaDakka offers a different and, in our opinion, correct intrepretation. I am quoting user Lord_Mortis here:

[The Scoring Units entry on page 90 of the rulebook] goes on to further state that "other units may deny an objective....but only Troops can control it." The Chaos Codex states that lesser demons "...do not use up any force organisation chart selection, but are otherwise treated as a Troops unit." It uses the big T for troops.

As they don't take up any slots on the FOC, then I may take any number of lesser demons as a Troops choice, and since they are not limited to just 6 slots, then my Troops allowance for them is unlimited, other than being limited by the points of the game being played.

Lesser Demons have therefore satisfied both requirements, being a Troops choice and coming from the Troops allowance (which for them is unlimited), and therefore count as a scoring unit.

Terran Forge Final Opinion: A unit of Summoned Lesser Demons are a Troops Choice for a Chaos Space Marine army but they take up zero out of the six available slots instead of one like a typical Troops Choice. Therefore they count as scoring units and can hold objectives, but do not take up a Force Organizational slot.


This was an interesting question to research, but after finding that thread on Dakka, we feel this is the best and most logical answer. Although it isn't clearly outlined, we definitely feel this is what was intended when written. If you are still unsure just read that thread on Dakka we linked too and form your own opinion and post it here, we'd love to see what you guys think! Thanks to CyborgTrucker for sending this question in and if you have one please send it to us at terranforge@gmail.com!

Indecision, indecision...

I am very indecisive, as the title of the post suggests. Basically, it takes me repainting my army two, maybe three times before I settle on a scheme and my Valhallans are no different. Originally they were white coats with khaki pants. Blegh. Then they were Khaki coats with green pants/armor. Meh. Now they are Grey coats with Blue pants/armor. Niiiiccceeee. I like how it looks a lot and they are fun to paint (and not very time consuming...for me :p)

First, the repaint of the mortar crew....


Now my newly painted CCS. I did some more base experimenting to...well...little success. Some of them basically disentegrated which is disappointing to say the least. I'm still happy with the way they look, but need to perfect my methods still (I used baking powder instead of soda which, reading on the interwebs, is probably my problem. Live and learn!)








And, a little teaser I guess, my commissar who is getting a loving paintjob (possibly in time for July...)